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Translation?

Guys, an appropriate translation of fado is pine...? Deep Atlantic Blue (talk) 21:22, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So what does the music sound like?

It's a shame that an article about a musical form does not discuss the music. When I hear a Fado melody, what makes that a Fado melody? What, musically, is Fado? Is it in minor keys? Are there certain common rhythms or chord movements? And if this isn't the case... that too, should be adressed. Gingermint (talk) 23:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

O Fado is everything. It is not condemned to certain rhythms or chords. "Tudo isto existe, Tudo isto é triste, Tudo isto é fado" (All this exists, All this is sad, All this is Fado). Cristiano Tomás (talk) 23:42, 24 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to leave a note much to this effect. The historical material is great, but the music has a special depth and a central role in Portuguese culture (along with futbol and Fatima) that the article feels weak. Not just that, but something should be said about the shift that took place after the death of Amália. And we need to hear more about the various talent contests for children based on fado, as well as the Noites do fado that are so important live and on television. Links to good recordings or YouTube performances would be helpful too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.184.1.238 (talk) 13:33, 17 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Pine

The article is quite a close translation of saudade but doesn't quite capture the meaning, and further fails as it is a verb, whereas saudade is a noun - this implies there is no noun derived from the verb "to pine" in english. What about 'pining'? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.240.232.254 (talk) 22:25, 7 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Modinha

Fado coming from modinha. Isn't it more probable the other way round? --BBird 22:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

one year after I still think its nonsense. just don't want to delete it yet. maybe next year... --BBird (talk) 22:34, 14 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Move?

Shouldn't this article be at Fado. There is no article there, it just redirects here. I would move it myself if I was able to delete the redirect: I don't want to lose the history. — Trilobite (Talk) 02:16, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Trilobite, yeah. Do it. Tanks. Eurolusitanian 12:12, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Ah but I can't. That's why I brought it up here instead of just going ahead with the move. It needs an admin to delte the redirect at Fado so that there's an empty place to move this article to. It's not an urgent problem though, as anyone who types in Fado will end up as this article. For consistency though it should be moved. — Trilobite (Talk) 16:41, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Just a little correction. I think that the music of Madredeus, excellent as it may be, can hardly qualify as "fado", being a mish-mash of many different genres. Fado is one, but not the only one, not even the most important genre. One should not think that a particular genre, just because it makes use of the Portuguese guitar and mentions the feeling of "saudade," is automatically "fado". Thank you.

Damn Fine Picture

Oh, that Débora Rodrigues is cute! Is she famous or just a regular singer?--24.15.4.45 05:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Lisbon and Coimbra fado

Added fado de Lisboa and Coimbra (trans.), please note any corrections needed. Berimbau1 18:45, 28 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why was removed the mention that tradition of applause in Coimbra is different? It was retained that tradition of applause in Lisbon is clapping of hands, what looks like a pretty moronic statement. -Deep Atlantic Blue (talk) 00:14, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Amália Rodrigues

Surely there should be a whole section on Amália, not on unknown north american singers... someone with the expertise to do this... I'll have a go at it in the following weeks... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.73.160.105 (talk) 06:02, 26 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You would think so! I am no expert, but I'll see what I can do. Mariza should be mentioned as well. Gandydancer (talk) 02:43, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

3F

Fado - fiesta - futebol (football) formula of António de Oliveira Salazar Böri (talk) 12:28, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's "Fado, Fátima, Futebol" actually... Galf (talk) 08:05, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Ramana Vieira

Hi. Why include a picture of an unknown, when there are hundreds of fado singers who have come to symbolise this music genre? This singer is not known and even the talk page on her questions whether she meets the noyability criteria. I would like to go ahead and remove it. Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 00:01, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Good observation, go ahead. --Elekhh (talk) 22:20, 2 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox pic

I believe I have the right code in the infobox, however, this template doesn't have a slot for a picture. And it's protected. So an admin has to unprotect it and then you can add in

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Which, if I understand right, will give the template a picture slot. But I'm not an expert here. If it doesn't work, find someone who understands templates better. B^e——C_ritical 03:59, 19 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Capitalisation of Fado/fado

The article dithers about the capitalisation of "fado". I can't see any reason, in the terms of WP:MOSCAP, for it to be capitalised - it's no more a proper name than jazz, blues, or soul. Is there any reason it should be capitalised, beyond the ordinary rules of English? -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 21:18, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of content in copyright violation of the English version of the Museu do fado website

I've already wasted enough of my life editing material that was copied-and pasted from the Museu do Fado website. The text was excerpted from "Circuito Museológico", written by Sara Pereira in 2008, as noted on that web page. The copyvio content was added here in the revision history of the article, by a single-purpose account. Carlstak (talk) 14:47, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Musicological aspects

The article states the Fado is usually in Dorian mode. This is untrue; the large majority of them is (as stated) in Ionian, or in Aeolian mode, i.e. the common minor mode. I think it's also interesting to mention that mode changes between minor and major are fairly common, esp. when going from verse to chorus. This is fairly typical of fado music, more than other traditional musics. Plijnzaad (talk) 21:15, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]