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This page must not redirect because it's referenced as a page with further information from Da Ali G Show. If you feel a separate page is not warranted, recommend this page for deletion, then change the main article. —JRM 11:29, 2004 Sep 7 (UTC)

Backstory

The first few sentences of the backstory section has to be rewritten. It doesn't make any sense.JohnC (talk) 10:53, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Punches cameraman?

I've seen the episode with the interview with the Daytona Beach wrestlers (Season 2, Episode 6 of the HBO show), and although the person being interviewed does get very angry and push the microphone away, there's no evidence that he then punches the camera man. Maybe its featured on another show, or some extras segment... Can anyone provide a link or more information about this? -- Mfv2 22:09, 14 October 2005 (UTC).[reply]

I have seen this episode as well, and at least in the American DVD release, the wrestler does NOT punch the camera man. I'm also fairly positive that's not shown in any of the extras, either. Unless the punch is shown in a UK release of the show, that information is incorrect and should be removed. --Alex 01:29, 18 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

When Sacha Cohen was on the Conan O'Brien show they discussed the skit and Conan asked what happened after that, as the episode ended abruptly. Sacha responded that the kid grabbed the camera and punched the camaraman in the face.

Origins

I don't have exact dates but I know that Bruno was first used for short skits as filler on the Paramount Comedy Channel in the UK (this is also how 'Trigger Happy TV' began). I'm not sure of the exact dates but it seems that this would warrant a mention.

Yes this is correct. It would be useful if someone could dig up information on this. Timb0h 12:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

They were shown in 1998, thus predating both Ali G and Borat. Maybe they are on youtube?

They were shown in 1998 on Paramount comedy Channel. Definitely. I've added the information. Enough of us remember this. WP:AGF would apply in this case --90.192.92.142 15:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Gay TV

I did not watch the Gay TV episode but don't you think it is a little different than exposed homophobia when people who are OK to talk to a clearly homosexual Bruno before TV cameras get upset when they are told that they would be on Gay TV? As I said I did not watch the episode but what is written in the article suggests that Bruno tells them of their appearence in Gay TV with a tone implying some sort of sexual objectification for the Gay audience. If that is really so, without condoning physical attacks, I would find the wrestlers' getting upset much more understandable than Sacha Cohen's behaviour who after all makes a living by making fools of unsuspecting people. I think either that part of the incidence should be made clearer or a more impartial tone should be adopted for describing Sacha Cohen's comedy. 150.216.151.84 20:40, 5 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That "part of the incidence" is already clear enough. Since you haven't seen the episode, you have no way of knowing what "tone" Bruno used, so your objection is in bad faith. There are plenty of other implications here beside "some sort of sexual objectification." BarrettBrown 18:43, 19 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

is "excruciatingly uncomfortable-to-watch" npov?

NO, it's not npov.173.48.62.136 (talk) 00:15, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Name correction suggestion

His name is in fact Brüno with a "ü". this should be changed.. His part of the Ali G show is called "Funkyzeit mit Brüno" where it's clearly shown with the letter ü. Electrohead 10:48, 3 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Season 1 ep 3

im sorry but i have reveiwed that episode and i dont see the part mentioned here about the marc jacobs show and gisele bundchen, could someone please clairify as that seems like a glaring error, i do remember seeing those scenes before but the bruno segment in the "politics" episode is some manhattan catwalk fashion event KarlJohannes 08:10, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

7-inch schlong?

Bruno never mentions this in any episode. This is an Ali G characterization. I believe it should therefore be removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.98.238.3 (talk) 01:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Requested move 2007

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Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen character) → Bruno (character) — Name is extremely difficult to spell out and is overly specific; there are no other popular "Bruno" characters, so adding the actor behind it is over-disambiguation. Request that it just be moved back to the regular "character" title, or somewhere else, I don't care. Hbdragon88 23:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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Survey - in support of the move

Support much simpler and in the event that Cohen allows usage of the character by other actors, we're covered. 205.157.110.11 22:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Survey - in opposition to the move

May I suggest instead Bruno (Da Ali G Show) as a possible move target? There are undobutedly other "Bruno's" out there. Bruno the Kid comes readily to mind. --Lenin and McCarthy | (Complain here) 23:39, 14 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That would be covered by the disambiguation page Bruno. Looking at the move logs, some users didn't like "Da Ali G" because the character would soon be moving out to other shows. Hbdragon88 02:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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This article has been renamed from Bruno (Sacha Baron Cohen character) to Bruno (character) as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 16:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Another Bruno statement

Didn't Bruno used to say: "auf der kampf" or "to the camp with it" or something similar? --Soetermans 07:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Kampf means struggle. Ninahexan (talk) 02:20, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Movie

The Bruno movie is listed on IMDB with release date and status. I added a note to that effect in the "Movie" section. For sake of preserving the debate over its status, I did not delete that section. However, it may need additional rewriting.Mzmadmike (talk) 15:49, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Eminem incident, MTV Movie Awards

For the record, this MTV article reveals Eminem was in on the stunt. --Another Believer _(Talk) 01:38, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a suitable reference -- hope I did it right! (Never added a ref before) 71.130.1.218 (talk) 16:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename

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The result of the move request was move to Brüno (character). Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 06:14, 15 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bruno (character) → Brüno (character) — Relisting to gain more input. —harej (talk) (cool!) 23:50, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

All promotional materials for the film list his name with the umlaut. Regardless of how his name was spelled on the TV show, we should use the most recent spelling with the umlaut. ShadowUltra (talk) 00:34, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. Bruno is the most common name for this character. Jafeluv (talk) 05:59, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
comment. Says who - where is your evidence for this assertion? Markb (talk) 12:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A reasonable question! A quick Google search tells the following (these are all among the top 40 ghits):
Bruno: [1], [2], [3], [4], Brüno: [5], [6], [7]

Looking at the sources currently used in the article:
Bruno: [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14], Brüno: [15], [16]

(Number 6 was a ~~red link~~ 404, and numbers 8 and 12 didn't mention Bruno/Brüno at all.) Now, external links:
Bruno: [17], [18], [19]. No Brüno, although the MySpace link (which doesn't work) has it in the URL.

In addition, Allmovie uses "Brüno", as does IMDb: [20], [21].

Feel free to add sources if you think that I missed something. Both spellings are clearly used, and my opposition is based on the fact that the majority of sources used in the article use the umlautless spelling. Jafeluv (talk) 13:18, 3 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks - that certainly backs up your argument. Markb (talk) 11:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support per the above. Aubergine (talk) 00:04, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand "support per the above", since the above seems to show that the version with the umlaut is less common. Dekimasuよ! 14:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per above. Redirects and disambiguations can take care of "Bruno" MrMarmite (talk) 08:58, 8 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above and IMDb. - Epson291 (talk) 20:08, 11 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above, it has always been spelled Brüno. Bruno could always be redirected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.107.217.18 (talk) 19:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose per WP:MOSTM. We should spell Bruno the way it's commonly spelled in English for the same reason we avoid weird capitalization, symbols, etc in trade names. It doesn't matter how the company refers to itself or how many ghits the "fancy" version gets, for instance our article on E*TRADE is titled E-Trade. The umlaut is clearly meant as a joke, and we should stick to the 26 letters of the alphabet. Squidfryerchef (talk) 15:51, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No we don't. check out Häagen-Dazs or Blue Öyster Cult. LoverOfTheRussianQueen (talk) 21:52, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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The Guardian and Rotten Tomatoes

These reviews are for the Bruno Movie, not specifically the character, who has appeared also in Da Ali G Show. So, i've removed this part.173.48.62.136 (talk) 02:42, 12 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Removed bit

I've removed some of the section "Character Backstory":

The choice of Austria as the country of origin for the character does not appear to be based on any specific real or perceived characteristics of Austrian people, but more on most victims' unfamiliarity with Austria. To someone with a limited knowledge of other countries, or someone who may already have misconceptions about foreigners, Europeans, or gay men, Brüno's ludicrous appearance, behaviour and announcements may appear initially plausible, and may reinforce stereotypes. This is the same strategy as when Cohen makes the Borat character a national of Kazakhstan (like Austria, a large country but one not prominent on the world stage), but actually gives him characteristics of a range of cultural backgrounds, with little relation to real Kazakhs.

It isn't cited, and seems very much like Original Research to me. I think that its good stuff but, as an analysis and interpretation, it needs to be cited to that reliable source that noted these things. If someone could provide a source for these statements, I will happily self-revert, but if one cannot be found, i am afraid that cannot include it. - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 07:27, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, the stuff isn't so great. His repeated references to Hitler in the film, (what does he, that this is the second time that the world turned on the greatest Austrian for trying new things?) is his focus on specifically the country of Austria. Actually, do his references to Hitler in the movie (they really weren't in the tv show much, were they?) deserve a section, comparing\contrasting with Borat's antisemitism?--64.193.79.137 (talk) 08:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I hesitate to complain about someone's efforts to write something constructive, 64anon, but I do agree that there is an issue as to whether we are talking about the character of Bruno or instead about Sasha Cohen's method of characterizations. Maybe the section (if cited) might be better off in the actor's article. Thoughts? - Arcayne (^{cast a spell}) 09:14, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is there any source for the reference to "increasing" his "security detail". This is a British comedian, not a Hollywood megastar/royalty. I doubt he has any security at all.124.197.15.138 (talk) 08:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ayman Abu Aita

Ayman Abu Aita appears to also be a representative of the Fatah party, as well as a "Christian charity worker". [http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=103797] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.23.247.15 (talk) 20:47, 23 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the section on Ayman, the commentary states "....where he made reference to Ayman Abu Aita whom Brüno comically interviewed in the movie as a terrorist." The movie is never referenced directly, so would recommend either adding the actual movie reference or re-worcing this section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.80.188 (talk) 18:24, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Ayman Abu Aita material has some serious WP:BLP issues. As of this writing, it makes claims about his affiliations which are not supported by the sources. Also one of the sources is a World Net Daily article - see WP:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_38#World_Net_Daily.--Larrybob (talk) 19:37, 24 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gay Austrian

Should the words "Gay Austrian" really link to Adolf Hitler? Is it something from movie or is it vandalism? Aratiti (talk) 11:54, 10 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well Brüno is an over the top gay Austrian fashion designer... that's the character... --Mrmoustache14 (talk) 03:37, 26 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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"Reaction" section out of place

It's just stuck in there while the film Brüno isn't even mentioned in the article and has its own page. Meanwhile that film's page doesn't even mention this review here cited. 2600:100E:BE1A:2EA2:9C88:4A7A:7078:793C (talk) 07:13, 12 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]