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Henningsen-Contreras statistics

I've added the table with the data about the number of trials and executions according to the statistics of Gustav Henningsen and Jaime Contreras. Since the authors themeselves admit that their statistics is far from being complete, I've compared the numbers given by them with the numbers that appear from other available sorces for the respective tribunals. I've based primarily on William Monter, Frontiers of Heresy: The Spanish Inquisition from the Basque Lands to Sicily, Cambridge 2003. CarlosPn (discussion) 31 Oct 2008 22:15 CET

Council of Troubles

The Council of Troubles in the Netherlands was not connected to the Inquisition. It was a temporary war time committee set up in the Netherlands to root out and punish those who had led the rebellion against the king.

sailors in port

One reason why the Inquisition was hated by Renaissance Protestants, was that it claimed jurisdiction over sailors belonging to trading ships temporarily visiting Spanish ports (who had no intention of settling in Spain or proselytizing to Spaniards), which was not the normal practice in international trade at that time. AnonMoos (talk)

Origins

"Inquisition was stablished in 13th Century in the Kingdom of Aragón, under instructions from the bishop of Rome, to counteract the Albigense, Cathar heresy. In 1478 it was stablished in Castille, where it had no previous tradition, under lobbying by the Catholic kings, according to Ricardo García Cárcel (ISBN 9788420739632), in the aim of obtaining the Eclessial support for their intended 'Absolute power'. Inquisition being a Church tribunal, it acted only on those having received Baptism, and in cases of Witchcraft. In 1600, the Inquisiton told its tribunals to cease intervening in cases of 'Sodomy'. (Source in R García-Cárcel booklet, also in 'La tortura judicial en España', ISBN 9788484320296, by Francisco Tomás y Valiente). Torquemada, main inquisitor in 1492, belonging to the Preacher's order, stablished by Domingo de Guzmán (Osmán, Haussman, Guttmann), from the 'clan de los Guzmanes', landed in Teba, Malaga, this is a converse surname, came from a family of converses, the confessor of Isabel, Espina, was formerly a rabin.

Classification as antisemetism

The Inquisition affected Moriscos (converted Muslim people) as well as the Jewish people, so why is this solely in a Wikipedia series on Antisemetism? Should it not also be part of the series on Islamophobia in that case? 2A02:C7F:228D:8800:B9E2:7672:BBB3:7C2 (talk) 01:05, 13 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Translation

I was confused as to why the language on the picture is translated as "Arise, O Lord, and defend your cause," particularly because no Bible translation I can find translates it like this. It appears the person who translated it lifted it from Psalm 74, where "arise, o Lord, and defend your cause," appears, but if it's Psalm 73, "defend" is nowhere in there and "judica" doesn't mean defend. This appears to be Psalm 73:22, which is translated as "Arise, O God, judge thy own cause" in the Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition.

However, I'm not an expert on Biblical Hebrew and the Vultage's translation history. I can't actually find an analogue to that verse in Psalm 73 in other Bibles. The KJV has in Psalm 73:20, "As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image." Obviously, this is not imperative, but it does contain a translation of "judica" (despise). For now I've changed it to judge but further research is necessary I think. Delukiel (talk) 11:16, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]