Talk:Ostrava

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old comments from 2004

taken from the User:Matt Borak's talk page:

Ostrava Are you sure that there are some Czechoslovaks?? 217.185.196.74 15:32, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

You are probably right that using "Czechoslovakians" is not the best thing to do, as it might lead to a confusion. There indeed was NO official Czechoslovakian nation (and thus no Czechoslovakians either). On the other hand, the term Czechoslovakians was used commonly before, refering to the people living inside the borders of the former Czechoslovakia or originating from it.

The article mentions Czechoslovakians while talking about WWII so the term in the sentence Historically, among the most influencing ethnic groups besides Czechoslovakians in Ostrava were Polish people, Germans and Jews. IMHO should be OK. The sence (in terms of time) of the second sentence in the same paragraph (Thus, the population of the city, has become a mixture of Czechoslovakians and Poles.) continues to present time, which is invalid, though. I changed the second occurence of the word to "Czechs and Slovaks" (the Slovak minority in the town is still important, which is reasonable considering that Ostrava being so close to the Slovak border).

If you or anybody else have any more objections, please feel free to incorporate them in the text. -- Matt Borak 17:27, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Mayor name

It was discussed someplace (sorry, but I don't remember where) over the creation of a former template which was used for many Czech towns which I created ({{Infobox settlement}}) and which, in its original version, contained a field for the mayor's name but after many objections that it's not very important for an international reader I removed it. And I concur with that opinion now. It might be used with large towns such as London, Paris etc. where the mayor's known internationally, but if you look for some basic data for say a Spanish town of the same size as Ostrava, would their name be of any importance to you? I'm not going to do any reverts or remove it again in this article, I removed it when I was applying the new infobox, from the above mentioned reason. --Caroig 08:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Average temperatures

The link in references (weather.com listed as source) redirects to data for Vienna, Austria and figures match those - information on average temperatures in the article is likely inaccurate. However, it seems there are no reliable data for Ostrava in weather.com

Pronunciation

Both speakers (female and male) in the sound file say [o'strava], but in the article the pronunciation is given as ['ostrava]

The "[o'strava]" pronunciation is the local dialectal one. Speakers of Lach dialects, Cieszyn Silesian or Polish would say it that way. Any other Czech speaker would say ['ostrava]. filelakeshoe (talk) 20:49, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It ISN'T Upper Silesia! It's Opavian Silesia!--89.200.229.191 (talk) 21:56, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Orign ignored, shameful again

This is not a forum for stirring up ethnic tensions.

Like many places in Tchechia, Slowakia and Poland, the nice houses, architecture and culture comes from the kicked out (and not in few cases massacered) German population. It is a shame, that the non German successors of these people who live in their houses, still try to shut their mouth about who made this culture and whose spirit brought all this to florish. A disgust. And it shows a certain fear of inferiority for if I live in someone elses house, I can admit it? Whats the big thing about it? And - b.t.w. - with this attiutde, there will never be peace in Europe, no matter how much the Germans pay. So in this special case: mind you adding, that the region came to economical and cultural bloom during hte "German period"? Thanks for being neutral and informing iin depth... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.108.98.124 (talk) 23:48, 27 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

It's a shame that some editors forget about crimes committed by the German population during WWII, eg. the Holocaust.Xx236 (talk) 08:14, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

The history section of this incomplete article currently (2021) does not include information on the Jews of Ostrava, nor of the Holocaust.Yohananw (talk) 16:35, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

OMG you are such a stupid Nazi. Ostrava is the most slavic city in Czech republic. It comes from the slavic word for island. The Germans were just colonialists in the czech lands and left the land 1945 the same way, they came in in the 17 century. The economical and cultural boom was due to the mining, which was mostly executed by Czechs because the germans were to coward to go into the mines. The Germans expelled many Czechs from the west part of the city and robbed them everything. So be quiet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.1.63.220 (talk) 18:54, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Administratibe vs. municipal district?

Pages describing districts say administrative, here is municipal. Please unify.Xx236 (talk) 08:18, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Odd climate section

The climate section is really odd. It tells the cities dimensions and even the length of the road network. What do these characteristics have to do with the climate of the city? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.176.94.161 (talk) 23:37, 15 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Quite. I have moved that sentence into the "geography" section. Feel free to make such changes yourself in the future. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:15, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Edited by the City Hall

For everyone's information, this article was overwritten and replaced with an entirely new article in 2015 by the City Hall of Ostrava. The new article has since been cleaned up a lot by other editors and as a result of the combined effort the article is certainly looking in a much better shape overall than it used to. However this rewrite by the úřad also removed a lot of useful information, like pronunciation of the city name and climate data (I've restored these two things). The last version before the úřední rewrite is this one. It would be good to see if anything else was removed which is worth restoring. – filelakeshoe (t / c) 🐱 13:14, 26 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Should there be a note with link to the prior version on top of the article?

In article history: > cur prev 13:32, 31 August 2015‎ Webmasterostrava talk contribs‎ 49,070 bytes +16,820‎ Edited by City Hall of Ostrava undo <

Sourced edits, referenced historical information, were lost in total replacement of big prior version! Since 31 August 2015, many edits to new version, both sourced and non-sourced. In current article there are POV edits to weed. As a total replacement of sourced version is a radical edit, maybe add a note and link on top? -Yohananw (talk) 20:25, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Miniuni World of Miniatures

Apparently, this attraction doesn't exist anymore, so it shouldn't be advertised. --193.165.237.9 (talk) 07:25, 20 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Holocaust lacuna

Deserves mention in the history section. So as not to get lost, here is current, restored, revised paragraph on Ostrava's Jewish community destroyed in WW2 Nazi genocide.

In 1931 the Jewish community in Ostrava numbered 6,865 (5.4% of the population).^[1] About 8,000 Jews from the Ostrava district were murdered in the Holocaust.^[2] The Nisko Plan included the first deportation train transports of 1301 Jews from Ostrava on 17 and 26 October 1939.^[3] In 1994, a Holocaust memorial to the Jewish victims of Ostrava was built in Milada Horáková Park.^[4]^[5]-Yohananw (talk) 00:22, 7 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "The Jewish Community of Ostrava Moravska". ANU [We] Museum of the Jewish People. Retrieved 3 June 2021.
^ "Moravska Ostrava". Museum of Tolerance Online Multimedia Learning Center. Retrieved 6 June 2021.
^ Holocaust Survivors and Victims Database. "Two lists of Jews deported from Ostrava, Czechoslovakia and vicinity in 1939 / [compiled by Otto Winecki]". The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Retrieved 6 June 2021.
^ Klenovsky, Jaroslav (2002). Jewish monuments of Moravia and Silesia. Brno: ERA Group. p. 148. ISBN 80-86517-08-X.
^ Vecerova, Petra (2009). Jewish monuments in Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia. Prague: Olympia. pp. 276–277. ISBN 978-80-7376-142-4.

[1] "The Jewish Community of Ostrava Moravska". ANU [We] Museum of the Jewish People. Retrieved 3 June 2021.

[2] "Moravska Ostrava". Museum of Tolerance Online Multimedia Learning Center. Retrieved 6 June 2021.

[3] Holocaust Survivors and Victims Database. "Two lists of Jews deported from Ostrava, Czechoslovakia and vicinity in 1939 / [compiled by Otto Winecki]". The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. Retrieved 6 June 2021.

[4] Klenovsky, Jaroslav (2002). Jewish monuments of Moravia and Silesia. Brno: ERA Group. p. 148. ISBN 80-86517-08-X.

[5] Vecerova, Petra (2009). Jewish monuments in Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia. Prague: Olympia. pp. 276–277. ISBN 978-80-7376-142-4.

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