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Map and Dracula body part Decription
[edit]Is it okay if I add the Catlevania 2 map and Describe the body parts of Dracula???? I think it would be very cool and thoughtful if someone did that, and explained the weaknesses of the body parts. If it gets deleted, then please tell me why.(LonerXL (talk) 20:44, 26 June 2008 (UTC))
Date of the game?
[edit]The game features Simon Belmont and takes place in 1698, seven years after the first Castlevania game.
It's been awhile since I've played the game, but at the end, after you defeat Dracula, doesn't his tomb have a date from the 1300's? Or are we supposed to understand that that date is the end of his mortal life and not his vampirical death? (I honestly don't know the answer.) Funnyhat 22:26, 1 Apr 2005 (UTC)
In reply to this: The tombstone says "Dracula 1431-76" which is the actual lifepan of the real historical person Vlad Dracula. This game, according to Konami, does take place in 1698, and thus the date on his tombstone would be referring to the dates of his mortal life, not his vampirical life, as you mentioned. --Yahweh 01:48, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
Updated the story
[edit]I updated the story for this game...Feel free to add/delete/change anything! --Yahweh 01:49, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
POV line removed
[edit]I removed the following line:
- Most commonly refered to as one of the worst Castlevania games in the series and the NES.
I have never heard that this game had a particularly bad reputation... This would at least need some reference.Ryusenshi 13:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Here's your reference: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4we8iFk-fY
- Sorry, I do not think a bunch of guys saying "This game sucks" (with bad grammar) in YouTube comments count as a reference.--Ryusenshi 08:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pay attention to the review and something might dawn on you. I don't see how his review should be seen as any different from a more known, say, magazine or website, just because he uses profanity? "JamesNintendoNerd" has one of the highest views counts for his videos of any YouTube director. (JamesNintendoNerd on Wikipedia). --Ifrit 12:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
- "a bunch of guys"? This is ignorant.SashaNein 12:53, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Pay attention to the review and something might dawn on you. I don't see how his review should be seen as any different from a more known, say, magazine or website, just because he uses profanity? "JamesNintendoNerd" has one of the highest views counts for his videos of any YouTube director. (JamesNintendoNerd on Wikipedia). --Ifrit 12:05, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I also enjoy the AVGN's videos. But if you look at the FAQ section of the AVGN's website , he admits that at the time he did the video purely as a joke, and even goes on to mention that its regarded as a classic game.
| AVGN FAQ. Look at the questions: "How did the Angry Nintendo Nerd (Angry Video Game Nerd) get started?", and "That game's not that bad, you're whining about it, just because you suck at it!" --Repner1 (talk) 01:55, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
North American Release Date
[edit]I updated the release date from "December, 1988" to "December 1, 1988" based on this release date found here at Sports, Video Games, Politics. --Yahweh 23:12, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- TarkusAB I am curious your input on this. Is the release date as the first of the month to be believed? I seem to recall a conversation somewhere on Wikipedia that Gamespot put the first of the month as a placeholder if they did not know the exact day. Do you happen to know anything about that? I find it unusual that Castlevania (1986 video game), Castlevania II: Simon's Quest, and Castlevania III: Dracula's Curse just so happened to all release on the first of the month for each of their releases in North America... Entirely possible, but suspicious nonetheless. --Bchill53 (talk) 17:16, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Bchill53: Well first off, GameSpot's database is shared by GameFaqs which is unreliable, so we can't use them for a release date source. (WP:VG/S). I've found that the best sources for old release dates are magazines at the time. If they reported "December 1, 1988", we use that. If they just reported "December 1988", then we keep it to that.
- Your intuition is probably correct. Games rarely had hard street dates in North America back then. I've seen that practice of people defaulting to the first day of the month without a reliable source, thinking they need a full date or something. Truth is, it was more of a "wild west" time for the industry back then. Publishers gave magazines a vague idea of when they might ship the game, like "December", then they just kinda showed up at your local game store one day.
- Ideally, see if you can find a preview in a Nintendo Power scan or something that gives a release date or month. TarkusABtalk 18:25, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
Story extracted from the manual
[edit]Can we do this? Is it stated anywhere that Nintendo has relicensed the contents of the game's manual under the GFDL or has released it under the Public Domain? --Remy Suen 13:27, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, the manual story has to be removed from several CV articles. Buzda 03:25, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Town names
[edit]This page lists the names of the towns as Jova, Veros, Aljiba, Aldora, Oldon, Fetra, and Ghulash. However, the Nintendo Power map (the only semi-official source that I know of) lists the town names as Jova, Veros, Aljiba, Aldra, Ondol, Doina, and Yomi. The town names are never stated directly in the game. The only ones that have names that are even hinted at in the game are Jova, Veros, Aljiba, and Aldra (so Aldora is clearly wrong, and is likely a typo). Where do you get the names Oldon, Fetra, and Ghulash from? I have seen them listed on the web, but I have no idea what official source they come from. Although the names Ondol, Doina, and Yomi are never mentioned in the game, they are mentioned in an official source (the Ninendo Power map), so they should probably be used. However, I don't want to change them myself until I hear what official source Oldon, Fetra, and Ghulash (and maybe even Aldora) come from. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.64.197 (talk) 03:09, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Since nobody has responded and it's been a week, I'm just going to go ahead and make the change myself.
Angry Video Game Nerd
[edit]It should be mentioned in the article (probably in the reception, or maybe legacy section) that it featured in an episode of AVGN. The Angry Video Game Nerd offers much criticism to the game to be added to the section.
Shouldn't this be mentioned? Xanthic-Ztk (talk) 02:39, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- No, it should not. AVGN mentions was deemed unreliable non-notable as a video game reviewer (being as his show is primarily for entertainment). As such, mentions of him reviewing a game are deemed as non-notable, and not included. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 05:56, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
Well atleast mentioning that it was in it would be good. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xanthic-Ztk (talk • contribs) 04:48, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
- Again, no. Its just not notable, and was deemed as such by the consensus of the project. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 04:58, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
And anyway that particular review drew the most criticism of any of his, a response review on there done by goemon047 who took a more objective stand (intsead of the regular critical one by AVGN) and debunked a lot of the AVGN's criticisms as not actual criticisms but more of ranting for entertainment purposes.--69.229.173.200 (talk) 23:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Certainly not notable. I'll get rid of it. Unless you can supply a link to what this is all about. Seems a bit fanboy-ish and cult(meaning only certain number of people know about this). Andy_Howard (talk) 23:18, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
Translation of the Japanese title
[edit]After some research on the game's story, it seems both translations (The Accursed Seal and The Cursed Seal) were inaccurate: It's not the seal that is cursed, the game's protagonist, Simon is cursed. The seal protects this curse from being broken. This is what the woman that appears to Simon (mentioned in the Japanese manual) implies. A transcript of the Japanese backstory can be found here. And here's a rough translation of the most important quotes:
「あなたの生命は、邪悪な呪いに左右されています。」 | "Your life is controlled by a wicked curse." |
「邪悪な呪いの力が再び年月をおって蓄積され、その力が頂点に達したとき、ドラキュラは再び復活するのです。」 | "Years later, the power of the wicked curse will accumulate, this power will reach its peak and Dracula will rise again." |
「この肉体を、呪いの力が弱いうちに見つけだし、牙城であるドラキュラ城で焼きはらい、封印してしまうのです。」 | "The power of the curse will weaken if you find this body, burn it in the stronghold that is Dracula Castle and break the seal." |
「この封印により、ドラキュラ伝説にも終止符が打たれることでしょう。」 | "You'll not only put an end to this seal but also to the legend of Dracula." |
「そして、あなたの背中の傷も、呪いから解放され癒えるでしょう。」 | "Thus, the injury of your back will be freed from the curse and it will heal." |
So I changed it to the most accurate translation: The Seal of the Curse. Prime Blue (talk) 17:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
External link to the Famicom Disk version ?
[edit]I wanted to add an external link to Dracula II: Noroi no Fuin (Famicom Disk) but user 92.14.118.118 has decided otherwise. I think the external link can be relevant to anyone who needs more information/images about the Famicom Disk version of the game. What do you think ? Lkermel (talk) 17:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC) Thanks for adding the link back Lkermel (talk) 03:06, 20 February 2010 (UTC) Ok, it looks like it's gone again and was removed by user CakewalkScragFunds (who doesn't even exist anymore)... oh well... --Lkermel (talk) 17:11, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
AVGN
[edit]Should the Angry Video Game Nerd's review be mentioned here? This was the first game he ever reviewed and now he is one of the most famous people on the internet. Does this warrent any notablility? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.15.81 (talk) 22:27, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Dead link on poor translation
[edit]This part " Active Gaming Media went further describing where and how the Japanese hint was lost.[35]" uses this "^ Anthony Teixeira. "Resolving a Translation Mystery - Castlevania II". Active Gaming Media. Retrieved 2010-01-10. // http://www.activegamingmedia.com/news/?p=291". But the link is dead and I wasn't able to find the article anywhere. Someone knows where to find the article? --186.207.218.168 (talk) 02:51, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Plot section
[edit]It is my understanding that plot sections are standard and expected for video game articles, and there is no good reason not to include one in this article. —Torchiest talkedits 17:49, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
- It is,as covered by the videogame projects guidelines. The anonymous ip seems to be willfully missinterpreting the MoS based on his personal opinions. --Marty Goldberg (talk) 18:03, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
Redacted
[edit]I thought this deserved to be mentioned as it is a minor change to the game which seems to be a good improvement of the game from what I've heard, unfortunately I haven't played the redaction first hand and have only researched it so far, I will try to contribute more after playing the game from start to finish in the redacted modified version, please edit the article if you feel so and I hope everyone feels that this deserves a mention on the page even if wholly rewritten. I do also recognise I haven't done anything with the external links section for this edit, I am new to editing wikipedia and am not definite on what I should and shouldn't do and apologise if I have done something wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrcatmunch (talk • contribs) 10:20, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
I realise now that what I was doing is most likely not correct and I will try to locate citations to help keep the Redacted section good. Mrcatmunch (talk) 17:54, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
Added citations to what I believe are reliable sources, if you feel they are not please dispute, but they are very factual sources and one of them is the sales page for the boxing and the other being a pros and cons weigh up.Mrcatmunch (talk) 18:00, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
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Why isn’t Rondo info valid?
[edit]An addition I made was reverted regarding the similarities of the cover to the DnD Ravenloft module and information regarding the first level of Rondo bearing a resemblance to the game. While the first may be reasonably considered “trivia”, I don’t understand the removal of the second, considering Harmony is mentioned in the legacy section and expanding it falls under the purview of valid information.