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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was - kept - SimonP 02:45, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
Non-notable, delete. Neutralitytalk 05:06, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete unless wikipedia wants a short, pointless article for every run of the mill school on the planet. CDThieme 05:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep and expand. How many articles on Israeli high schools do we see around here? All secondary schools are notable. Etc etc. --BaronLarf 05:34, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep schools. Verifiable and NPOV. First, preserve knowledge, then expand knowledge. Thanks to Neutrality, I've had no time for adding content today. --Unfocused 05:49, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Kappa 05:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, not notable, schools cruft. Megan1967 06:05, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Instutional Vanity. Wikipedia isn't a triviabase Gmaxwell 06:27, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete until we launch Wikischools. Master Thief Garrett 07:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- If there were an effective Wikischools project, I would be inclined to merge schools on Wikipedia into articles reflecting their type/geography (e.g. high schools in California) - but I fear that such a project would be an excuse to shunt them away, not an engine to grow knowledge on them. -- BD2412 thimkact 14:08, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
- The flip side is that, if you just happened upon Wikipedia for the first time, would you be more impressed if you found a dozen pages of the type "[school] is a [type] school in [city], [country]. It goes from grades [x] to [y] and has [z] students", or if you saw a 12-paragraph-long article about all of the high schools in a city? My guess would be the latter. Personally, I think that consolidating articles would encourage expansion more than a bunch of individual substubs, and if the article gets too big the individual schools can always be spun out. While I'm dreaming, it would be nice if people took a top-down approach to creating school articles, by first creating articles on the city and/or schools in the district, and once those are comprehensive, moving on to individual schools. Anyway, merge and redirect to Rehovot. JYolkowski // talk 22:33, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Indeed, that's the sort of crap I saw here when I first visited WP back in... 2002? 2003? Somewhere round there. It was mostly crappy and I was unimpressed. As it is we now have thousands of pages' worth of stunning information, but we've still got some crappy hangons. Yes a Wikischools project would seem to be getting rid of them, but then this whole "schools are auto-notable!!!" problem would be gone--it would be THEIR problem to fix and Vfd the schools. Every single one of these school-deletion pages is being made to sound like it's a heartfelt "ethical" debate about things that are essential to the forwarding of mankind's collective consciousness, and that's just bull. Complete and utter bull. Either you vote or you don't, you don't try to make others' votes sound invalid based on their own perverted POV, which is the whole thing the Vfd rests upon for its conclusions. Master Thief Garrett 03:35, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- The flip side is that, if you just happened upon Wikipedia for the first time, would you be more impressed if you found a dozen pages of the type "[school] is a [type] school in [city], [country]. It goes from grades [x] to [y] and has [z] students", or if you saw a 12-paragraph-long article about all of the high schools in a city? My guess would be the latter. Personally, I think that consolidating articles would encourage expansion more than a bunch of individual substubs, and if the article gets too big the individual schools can always be spun out. While I'm dreaming, it would be nice if people took a top-down approach to creating school articles, by first creating articles on the city and/or schools in the district, and once those are comprehensive, moving on to individual schools. Anyway, merge and redirect to Rehovot. JYolkowski // talk 22:33, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- If there were an effective Wikischools project, I would be inclined to merge schools on Wikipedia into articles reflecting their type/geography (e.g. high schools in California) - but I fear that such a project would be an excuse to shunt them away, not an engine to grow knowledge on them. -- BD2412 thimkact 14:08, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
- Merge into Rehovot and delete - Skysmith 09:31, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep.JuntungWu 12:42, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Subject should be verifiable. - SimonP 13:22, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Is there a Hebrew-speaker in the house? Seriously though there is plenty on this school in English. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 13:37, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep, per BaronLarf. -- BD2412 thimkact 14:06, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
- Keep this fine little article Lupin 14:12, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep schools in wikipedia. --Howrealisreal 14:47, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, vanity. Radiant_* 15:02, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
- Merge/Consolidate into an article on the local school administrative district, or else keep. Report to deleteaholics anonymous. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200. ;-) — RJH 15:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep -- Longhair | Talk 17:00, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep You know the drill. R Calvete 19:50, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
- Delete. Useless collection of generic facts about an insignificant school. This is not an encyclopedia article. Individual schools are not inherently encyclopedic and there is nothing to distinguish insignificant schools like this one from thousands of nearly identical schools around the world. Gamaliel 20:24, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the schoolcruft. Ketsuban has spoken. The debate is over. 21:07, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Bogus (non-policy) nomination - notability is still not a listed deletion criterion - David Gerard 23:17, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Non-notable. Quale 23:53, 17 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into Rehovot per my school article policy. Kelly Martin 02:06, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep each and every israeli school is notable. Klonimus 03:01, 18 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Lots of articles start out as mere stubs. Visit Schoolwatch to vote on other schools up for vfd. --Zantastik 18:29, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Introduce a limit of 3 nominatiions per dayCalJW 18:44, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete = not notable. NoAccount 03:08, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- keep this too please Yuckfoo 18:37, 20 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.