Talk:Korobeyniki

Hi folks, anyone knowledgable in Russian folk music should add to this article. I didn't have much luck finding out information on my own, and most pages that feature this song are in Russian, so this article could use some expansion from someone more qualified than me.

What is the "true" proper spelling for Russian->English? Korobeyniki, Korobejniki, etc? -
When did it originate? Does it have a known single composer or at least have a known origin of geographic location? -
Does it have other variations within the Russian and Slavic world? -
Any other notable details that could be included?

--I am not good at running 22:57, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hello. I don't know if there is a standardised Russian→English transliteration. I know there is ISO 9, but people don't generally use it, they just seem to use what sounds closest. ISO 9 transliteration would be "korobejniki", but English speakers usually use "y" for "j" because "y" in English is closest. (Conversely, Finnish speakers would use "korobejniki" anyway because here "j" is "j" =) Another problem with ISO 9 is that it insists using character-per-character transliteration and as such uses several characters outside of Latin-1 or ASCII, fortunately we won't hit them here.

And I regrettably don't know much about the song, except that it does have Finnish lyrics (often titled "Kulkukauppias", lyrics begin "Raskasta laukkua kantaen / kulkukauppias vain taivaltaa..." cursory search from YLE says 'twas translated by Sauvo Puhtila) I'd be terribly interested to know if anyone made an English version! --Wwwwolf 14:08, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! You might want to take a look at the Transliteration of Russian into English article, as well as at its talk page. Generally, we are trying to use just one transliteration system across all English Wikipedia articles, and ISO-9 was not a good choice. Let me know if you have questions.—Ëzhiki (erinaceus amurensis) 22:33, August 17, 2005 (UTC)

This article should probably be merged with Korobeiniki since it's pretty much the same thing. 23:00, September 14, 2005 (UTC)