Talk:Benazir Bhutto

“Secularist?”

The article described her policies as secularist yet daughter of destiny, her autobiography, repeatedly mentions Islam(albeit a liberal or progressive interpretation thereof) as one of her influences, was the mention of Islam in the current Pakistani constitution added later?I watched a video with Benzar Bhutto and she says Osama Bin Laden was killed 10 years ago by his own people and everyone knows about it in their countrys.

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University marriage proposals

I have some doubts whether marriage proposals that were "rebuffed" have a place in the article in the first place, but I'm more concerned that our article appears to disagree with what Dawn has to say, quoting the author of the book we cite. According to Dawn, there were "interested paramour[s]" whom Bhutto rejected; our article claims Bhutto proposed marriage and was rebuffed. Can someone check the book by Bhatia? Huon (talk) 23:36, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Second term as Prime Minister (1993–96)

Why are there two foreign policy and domestic policy sections for 1993–96? Braganza (talk)

Requesting edit examination and opinion

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RfC for Lead

Should it be mentioned in the lead the Bhutto was not the first female leader of Pakistan as it is assumed? The first female leader of Pakistan was Queen Elizabeth II who was the head of state of Pakistan from 1952 to 1956. See preview here. Peter Ormond 💬 15:10, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Bhutto was the first head of government of Pakistan. Where's Elizabeth II was the first head of state of Pakistan. GoodDay (talk) 16:29, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

Yes, you're correct. And this I think should be mentioned in the lead. See List of the first women heads of government and state in Muslim-majority countries. Peter Ormond 💬 16:40, 7 August 2021 (UTC)

• Probably not, the comparison is somewhat tortured, between a powerful, elected head of government, and a largely symbolic, hereditary, transitional, head of state inherited from pre-independence. Is the comparison a frequently noted one? I think not and therefore it's a form of SYNTH to draw a conclusion by merging elements from two true statements. I would certainly think it not lead-worthy, though it could go in the article body. Pincrete (talk) 12:51, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• No. As GoodDay and Pincrete have already pointed out, talking of "leader" in quite a vague way conflates the head of government with the head of state, which I don't think helps the reader. That Elizabeth II was Pakistan's head of state for a few years is largely trivia; as Pincrete noted, it is not a fact widely reported in discussions of Bhutto, as for instance one can see at the Encyclopaedia Britannica entry or this BBC obituary. If properly sourced then it could go in the article main body, but I don't see it as being lead worthy. Midnightblueowl (talk) 14:30, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
• Not really - its an academic distinction. She is widely considered the country's first female leader, and I can't see a single reliable source that hedges its bets in a way that suggests Wikipedia should be doing the same. St★lwart¹¹¹ 03:41, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
• No - The confusion can easily be avoided by making the writing more specific, such as "first head of government", rather than using the generic term "leader". The mention of Queen Elisabeth II is unnecessary. PraiseVivec (talk) 16:24, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
• No, it's trivia, since Elizabeth II's role was a formality; Bhutto's significance is widely-recognized in the sources and few of them mention Elizabeth II in relation to her. We should be careful with our wording to avoid saying something incorrect, of course, but I don't see the point of mentioning Elizabeth II in the lead or highlighting the distinction you're making here - it's not really something important to Bhutto's biography. --Aquillion (talk) 03:58, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
• No as pointed out by user Pincrete. BristolTreeHouse (talk) 07:07, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
• No: it's a good trivia trick question but we should just write something specific and factual, that she was the first head of government or similar. You need lots of RSes mentioning the fact for it to be due weight, which no-one seems to have found. — Bilorv (talk) 15:49, 25 August 2021 (UTC)

Flagging up unsubstantiated allegations

The page on Benazir Bhutto include several statements which may well be true, but aren't backed up by citations or references. For example, the important allegation is made that "Intelligence services rigged that year's election to ensure a victory for the conservative Islamic Democratic Alliance (IJI), at which Bhutto became Leader of the Opposition." I think this rigging is widely accepted, but it surely needs substantiation by references. Can anyone help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Corsaire5555 (talk • contribs) 11:50, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

See WP:LEADCITE. Statements in the lead do not need to carry citations if the information itself is properly cited in the main body of the article. Midnightblueowl (talk) 09:38, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Which image to use?

Should we use this image or File:Benazir Bhutto Zardari.jpg for the photo at the beginning of the article? The argument for the 1994 one is that it is a photo from her premiership. The other one is more recent though. Which should be used?  Hamza Ali Shah  ^Talk 23:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

The one which is currently used. It has higher resolution and also her face is clearer than in the other image. Also, this image is from her premiership, and has the Pakistani flag in the background. Peter Ormond 💬 01:44, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Unencyclopedic wording.

In the lede last para, the line "Posthumously, she came to be regarded as an icon for women's rights due to her political success in a male-dominated society." should be "Posthumously, she came to be regarded as an icon for women's rights in Pakistan." But "in a male-dominated society" does not uphold WP:DUE and WP:Relevance. Please fix it. 182.183.0.254 (talk) 21:02, 16 October 2023 (UTC)

Category needed

This article needs the Political prisoners of Pakistan category added Samthony (talk) 20:24, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2024

To add a Template:Further below the "First term as Prime Minister (1988–1990)" section linking the newly created First Benazir Bhutto Government page to the main Benazir Bhutto page. Canned Knight (talk) 15:18, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done PianoDan (talk) 18:28, 12 April 2024 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 July 2024

Requesting that the newly created Second Benazir Bhutto government page be added as a "further information" banner below the 'Second term as Prime Minister (1993–1996)' section like the first term section. Canned Knight (talk) 15:55, 12 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done Jamedeus (talk) 03:49, 13 July 2024 (UTC)