Talk:Bristol

Notable People?

Some much smaller places have sections devoted to notable people from the town or city (see Falmouth for a good example of an obviously padded example); it's very surprising that this article has none. I can't believe that this is by chance, and that no-one has noticed, so is there a reason for it? Bibliosporias (talk) 14:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I now find that the same applies to the Bath, Somerset article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bibliosporias (talk • contribs) 14:20, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

That is probably down to me as did a lot of the work on both articles. I have found these "notable people from X" tend to get bloated, attract lots of vandalism & are often uncited. Category:People from Bristol has hundreds of people from or associated with the city, as does Category:People from Bath, Somerset - how would you decide which should be included in the (already long) article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodw (talk • contribs) 14:44 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Very much like Rod, I think it's a good idea to limit or better still remove such sections. They're a magnet for fan cruft and unsourced content - very much the same as "In popular culture" sections (see WP:IPC --10mmsocket (talk) 15:46, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

I see your point. I've found them useful in the past (which is why I was looking for them), though I agree hat they're often padded out considerably (see what I said about Falmouth). They're still a lot smaller and more select than the Categories. Perhaps they require more editorial policing than is necessary, though. Bibliosporias (talk) 16:53, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

It could be helpful to include a link to that category: Category:People from Bristol in the See Also section? I tend to agree that a random list of notable people is not helpful. If someone has a notable association with the city, they would probably be named in one of the other sections already. Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 22:04, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

Merge List of Museums in Bristol?

I came across List of museums in Bristol which doesn’t seem to be linked here or in Culture in Bristol, but also seems to duplicate parts of both. I’m thinking it should probably be merged and exist just as a category instead - anyone have a strong opinion? Barnards.tar.gz (talk) 09:17, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

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Collage – Sprapped discussion

@10mmsocket:, I changed the collage, you reverted and I’d still like to change it. I am going to have another attempt, don’t revert the whole thing just the ones you don’t like. I’ll try to make it a like for like swap out rather than rearranging it all, it wasn’t my best effort anyway. Chocolateediter (talk) 19:13, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

Please don't do it on the page and start an edit war. You were bold, you were reverted and you have come here to discuss. So bring your proposed collage here an explain why you think it should be changed from the images that are there right now. 10mmsocket (talk) 19:18, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I just reverted your second update. Why won't you discuss your proposed change here? My position is that there is nothing wrong with what's there right now and it doesn't need changing. Please explain why the individual images you have chosen are better than the existing images. Please don't change the page again. 10mmsocket (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

@10mmsocket:

Please don’t skim read this & ask politely if you don’t understand my wording, no doubt some text has strayed from me rethinking what I type and it takes ages for me to word things.

I thought I’d do a attempt, you’d see it & think it’s alright then say it’s clear and we’d move on. I had done the second edit before I read what you had put down(I did jump ahead however you didn’t ping me when you messaged), it does appear you typed a message before my second edit so I didn’t see about you wanting each photo in talk so don’t mumble on about that.

Some things to consider; Wikipedia:Baby and bathwater and WP:CAUGHTUP.

I’ll wait for your next message this time and please ping me. You can look back at my second attempt (I kept the skyline and Wills picture all others swapped out) and think about each one (comparing them to the old ones) then come here and say which you like and if you don’t like any suggest some others. I really would like new ones so please just suggest or accept than stubbornly say only the original collage is best because I’d be tempted to put up the original picture on this article from years back. The old CSbridge picture is used on multiple articles (UK, observatory, bridge and Bristol museums) so that needs to be taken into consideration.

If you take days or weeks I might chance a naughty 3rd attempt. By now you’ve probably gone away. I best keep messages short/bullet pointed from now on as something like this can take an hour for me do. Chocolateediter (talk) 21:44, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

The onus is on you as the one proposing change to advocate for the images that you want to insert and explain why the existing images are inferior. So please, put up your proposed collage here on the talk page and lets hear your thoughts and discuss them. 10mmsocket (talk) 22:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

The onus is on those who disagree with my proposal to explain why. - Wiktionary, I’m putting the onus on you (@10mmsocket:) as you haven’t given a valid answer (Wikipedia:Don't revert due solely to "no consensus") as why you have fully-reverted 2 attempts (by WP:RV, partially reversion is preferred) at a bold change to a collage in the Bristol article infobox. You want the status quo, I wanting to change pictures and am willing to meet in the middle. Both edits have been seen and reverted by yourself (if you blindly reverted my 2nd attempt then that is a serious misuse of the revert) and you have yet to suggest anything but the status quo. Please bear in mind,WP:BABY and WP:CAUGHTUP as the general guide full reverting situations: please also bear in mind that you have yet to ping me properly with each message, when I have said multiple times as I am more likely to see and contribute to discussions otherwise if I don’t check you may as well not be messaging. This lack of pinging has already cause my attempt no.2 edit to go out after your message to put it here 1st, due to me not being notified about said message’s existence before the edit. I have already stated also that am disregarding my first attempt as I no longer see it as a good standard, my second attempt however should be regarded as what I am proposing to do, with changes if needs be. If this message falls on deaf ears I will take it upon myself to do my 1st revert, do not count my 2nd attempt as revert to a revert but an edit with the same purpose but completely different solution to the problem reverted first edit. Chocolateediter (talk) 00:29, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

Next Bristol Wiki Meetup

...is a special Bristol / Hanover joint meetup in central Bristol on Saturday 16th September 2023. See the announcement in the wikiproject or sign up to attend on Meta. MartinPoulter (talk) 08:35, 12 August 2023 (UTC)