Talk:Waterspout

Waterspouts are tornadoes over water

Extract from www.torro.org.uk:

"Some tornadoes form out to sea as strong waterspouts (q.v.) which sometimes cross the coast, so a waterspout may become a tornado as the twisting funnel moves from land to sea (and vice-versa). A recent powerful and well-documented example is that of Selsey on the south coast of England on the night of 7 to 8 January 1998. When the waterspout made landfall, it carved a trail of damage a kilometer wide through the town as it damaged hundreds of buildings in less than ten minutes"

Also, and extract from http://www.nssl.noaa.gov/NWSTornado/

"Waterspouts occasionally move inland becoming tornadoes causing damage and injuries."

Cleanup required

Following today's extensive edits by User:65.77.67.15 - diff, we now need a bit of clean up. The edits mostly look good, but

1. The significant changes to Waterspout vs Tornado definitions need confirmation or sourcing
2. we've lost the original references
3. lead para needs reformatting to conform with the Manual of Sytle
4. self references to Wikipedia need to be removed

Water devil

Is a water devil a type of tornadic waterspout, or a synonym? Vivo (talk) 08:02, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

It is a dust devil on water (no clouds). Pierre cb (talk) 12:48, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Pierre cb. So there is no water in it, and the water body only serves as a surface? Vivo (talk) 08:50, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

No. There is no clouds related to it above, but it can suck water from the body of water on which it is as there is dust in a dust devil. Pierre cb (talk) 13:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)

Waterspout kills 4 secret service persons after waterspout capsizes a boat in Italy

The article states: Incidents of waterspouts causing severe damage and casualties are rare; however, there have been several notable examples.. This week, a boat in Italy's Lago Maggiore capsized and 4 died, all on the boat were curiously related to the secret services of Italy or Israel: CNN AncientWalrus (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

Mesocyclone part needs to be edited

The part about some waterspouts coming from mesocyclones is incorrect. If the funnel was spawned by a mesocyclone, it has the ability to cross onto land and therefore is actually a tornado. It’s just a tornado over water. But the mesocyclone part is what determines the difference. 2600:1700:B291:F30:F827:60E4:5BC6:3A5C (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

This IP did not read the text. It is clearly said that only tornadic waterspout are issued from mesocyclone (with references):

1. in the introduction :"Most waterspouts do not suck up water; they are small, weak rotating columns of air over water. Although typically weaker than their land counterparts, stronger versions—spawned by mesocyclones—do occasionally occur."
2. in "Tornadic" section: "Tornadic waterspouts, also accurately referred to as "tornadoes over water", are formed from mesocyclones in a manner essentially identical to land-based tornadoes in connection with severe thunderstorms, but simply occurring over water." For sure those can can transfert inland from water.

Pierre cb (talk) 03:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)