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[edit](Pinging @Sbaio and @MatasLife)
Seems like there's a dispute about whether Lithuania should be considered a Northern European country or not...... Maybe we can discuss this issue here so hopefully we can build a WP:CONSENSUS and resolve the issue. I honestly don't care either way but I wanted to hear y'alls opinions on this thing. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 18:03, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- There already is a consensus. There is even a note that explains the location issue. – sbaio 18:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you show me where the note is? -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 18:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- At the end of the first sentence you will see the [a] note.– sbaio 18:11, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Can you show me where the note is? -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 18:07, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Officially by UN as well Lithuanian government claims that they’re Northern European countries. If Latvia and Estonia are considered to be stated as Northern European countries in their wiki page even though all three countries are Baltic States then so should Lithuania be considered as Northern European. Especially that it’s agreed widely but international community that three Baltic states are part of Northern Europe. MatasLife (talk) 19:39, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is edited by individual people and not by governments or international organizations. In addition, everything is based on sources so Latvia's and Estonia's pages can list whatever they want. I would also like to point out that this is not the first time that you changed the geographic location against the consensus. Furthermore, Lithuania is neither eastern or northern European country. This kind of division (eastern or northern) is based purely on personal preference. I already wrote above that there is a note about the division in the first sentence of the page so please look through sources in it before proceeding to waste everyone's time. – sbaio 20:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- And the page must focus on facts, because the Baltic countries are geographically emphasized as Northern European states. Estonia and Latvia, both countries, also have disputes about whether they belong in Eastern or Northern Europe, but they decided - Northern in their wiki page. It makes zero sense to not display Lithuania as Northern European when other Baltics states are displayed as so. MatasLife (talk) 20:19, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MatasLife @Sbaio Honestly by this point maybe we should just make a compromise and call it a Northeastern European country or something. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 20:50, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MatasLife: And the facts are in the note, which you keep ignoring. The
because the Baltic countries are geographically emphasized as Northern European states
statement is completely false, because northern, eastern, central, western and southern are geopolitical groupings, which is not the same as geographical location. In addition,Estonia and Latvia, both countries, also have disputes about whether they belong in Eastern or Northern Europe, but they decided - Northern in their wiki page.
– there was no discussion about that in either Talk:Latvia or WT:LATVIA, while for Estonia there was one discussion at Talk:Estonia/Archive 4#Geographic placement of Estonia (with the second to last comment being the most reasonable in that whole discussion). – sbaio 04:29, 29 April 2023 (UTC)- If both countries decided why Lithuania is not stated as Northern European? Baltic States grouping should be exactly the same. MatasLife (talk) 11:03, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- @Shadow of the Starlit Sky: Northeastern Europe, which is now a disambiguation page, used to redirect to the Baltic region about one year ago. – sbaio 04:29, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
- @MatasLife: And the facts are in the note, which you keep ignoring. The
- @MatasLife @Sbaio Honestly by this point maybe we should just make a compromise and call it a Northeastern European country or something. -- Shadow of the Starlit Sky 20:50, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- And the page must focus on facts, because the Baltic countries are geographically emphasized as Northern European states. Estonia and Latvia, both countries, also have disputes about whether they belong in Eastern or Northern Europe, but they decided - Northern in their wiki page. It makes zero sense to not display Lithuania as Northern European when other Baltics states are displayed as so. MatasLife (talk) 20:19, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is edited by individual people and not by governments or international organizations. In addition, everything is based on sources so Latvia's and Estonia's pages can list whatever they want. I would also like to point out that this is not the first time that you changed the geographic location against the consensus. Furthermore, Lithuania is neither eastern or northern European country. This kind of division (eastern or northern) is based purely on personal preference. I already wrote above that there is a note about the division in the first sentence of the page so please look through sources in it before proceeding to waste everyone's time. – sbaio 20:08, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
- This is not a discussion forum, please keep your opinions to a minimum. 78.56.27.65 (talk) 17:18, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
- Comment: Currently presented note
[a]
is all that is necessary in this article per the most WP:NPOV. Nevertheless, in my opinion, the priority should be given to Lithuania's location in Northern Europe according to the United Nations geoscheme for Europe (I think this is the top-level classification and other sources are less important), but I believe there was a consensus to present it like that with different points of view, so probably we should not reopen such discussion. -- Pofka (talk) 21:02, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
GDP(PPP)
[edit]Average income per capita in Lithuania is not more than 1000 Eur, how did you get USD 54000 average income per capita per year ? this makes EUR 4000 per month. Stop lying. 86.38.62.82 (talk) 06:52, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
- Please familiarize yourself with the difference between GDP, GNI and, let's say, gross average wage. Also, WP:CIVIL. -- Mindaur (talk) 09:07, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
The thing is too long!
[edit]The thing is too long, like I mean it. The thing have like 17500+ words, like why? I know it it have like a lot of history maybe cut off some details so we go earlier into the important stuff? 2eddss (talk) 02:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
English Pronunciation
[edit]Only the BrE pronunciation is given. AmE standard pronunciation is Lithuania (/ˌlɪθuˈeɪniə/) with the yod-dropping.Venqax (talk) 00:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC) 00:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
- No need to provide all variations as this would add extra clutter, per MOS:DIAPHONEMIC. -- Mindaur (talk) 09:30, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
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